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	<title>Comments on: Tea Review: 2005 Yunnan Pu-ehr</title>
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		<title>By: Cinnabar</title>
		<link>http://www.gongfugirl.com/2007/05/tea-review-2005-yunnan-pu-ehr/comment-page-1/#comment-2068</link>
		<dc:creator>Cinnabar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 00:00:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Therese - there are lots of online teashops that sell Chinese teas. Our &quot;Retail resources&quot; list is a good start and I&#039;m sure you can find what you&#039;re looking for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Therese &#8211; there are lots of online teashops that sell Chinese teas. Our &#8220;Retail resources&#8221; list is a good start and I&#8217;m sure you can find what you&#8217;re looking for.</p>
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		<title>By: Therese</title>
		<link>http://www.gongfugirl.com/2007/05/tea-review-2005-yunnan-pu-ehr/comment-page-1/#comment-2022</link>
		<dc:creator>Therese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 23:01:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can you tell me where I can order wu wei loose tea. Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you tell me where I can order wu wei loose tea. Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Phyll</title>
		<link>http://www.gongfugirl.com/2007/05/tea-review-2005-yunnan-pu-ehr/comment-page-1/#comment-287</link>
		<dc:creator>Phyll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 21:29:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The give away clue that it is a cooked (shu) pu&#039;er was your mention of its &quot;dark red liquor...smelled like soil,&quot; etc.  Those are not taste descriptors of a raw (sheng) 2-year old pu&#039;er.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The give away clue that it is a cooked (shu) pu&#8217;er was your mention of its &#8220;dark red liquor&#8230;smelled like soil,&#8221; etc.  Those are not taste descriptors of a raw (sheng) 2-year old pu&#8217;er.</p>
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		<title>By: Cinnabar</title>
		<link>http://www.gongfugirl.com/2007/05/tea-review-2005-yunnan-pu-ehr/comment-page-1/#comment-284</link>
		<dc:creator>Cinnabar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 15:09:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I appreciate your input. It has led to further research regarding the specifics of the pu-ehr, and further information is always a good thing. I kept meaning to make note of the actual package so that I could verify my information, but I seem to be at work when I&#039;m looking things up and forget about it when I&#039;m at home where the tea is. Everything I&#039;ve read indicates that the particular pu-ehr that we have is not cooked, including the insert which I quoted in the original review. If that is accurate, it is steamed and pressed. It is a very enjoyable tea in any case, and one we would not have been unlikely to discover otherwise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I appreciate your input. It has led to further research regarding the specifics of the pu-ehr, and further information is always a good thing. I kept meaning to make note of the actual package so that I could verify my information, but I seem to be at work when I&#8217;m looking things up and forget about it when I&#8217;m at home where the tea is. Everything I&#8217;ve read indicates that the particular pu-ehr that we have is not cooked, including the insert which I quoted in the original review. If that is accurate, it is steamed and pressed. It is a very enjoyable tea in any case, and one we would not have been unlikely to discover otherwise.</p>
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		<title>By: Phyll</title>
		<link>http://www.gongfugirl.com/2007/05/tea-review-2005-yunnan-pu-ehr/comment-page-1/#comment-266</link>
		<dc:creator>Phyll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 00:46:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

Obviouly, being a brick-and-mortar shop in the US, they have to price their teas high enough to cover the overhead and make a profit.  From an end consumer&#039;s perspective, though, $95 for a cooked pu&#039;er is many times the retail-end prices through online vendors in China or in the US.  A 2005 &quot;rare and one-time limited production&quot; high quality cooked pu&#039;er that has the most tendency to increase in value from year to year (justified or otherwise) can be had for much less than $95.  Most of the 2005 regular cooked pu&#039;er nowadays run between $10 - 35 per 357gr disc...and that is the retail-end price with middlemen costs factored in and with high-spending Westerners (myself included) as the target market.

A pu&#039;er tea factory usually makes a wide gamut of teas, from high to low quality ones.  If the cake above is from Menghai Dayi (I&#039;m not sure unless you have a pic of the logo on the wrapper and/or the little embedded ticket in the middle of the disc), they usually command a higher price than most other factories...but they still don&#039;t -- or very rarely -- go above the $35 mark for a 2-year old *cooked* cake nowadays.

Yes, 2 years is considered a baby age for pu&#039;er, but it doesn&#039;t matter as much for the cooked type than for the raw type.  Cooked tea doesn&#039;t evolve as much (if at all), unlike raw pu&#039;er tea.  A few years of proper storage is known to get rid of any nasty / mud-y / pond-y / barnyard-y in some cooked teas that have those undesireable &quot;newly released&quot; aromas.  Not all have those aromas to begin with, however.

I only meant my comments in the best of intention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>Obviouly, being a brick-and-mortar shop in the US, they have to price their teas high enough to cover the overhead and make a profit.  From an end consumer&#8217;s perspective, though, $95 for a cooked pu&#8217;er is many times the retail-end prices through online vendors in China or in the US.  A 2005 &#8220;rare and one-time limited production&#8221; high quality cooked pu&#8217;er that has the most tendency to increase in value from year to year (justified or otherwise) can be had for much less than $95.  Most of the 2005 regular cooked pu&#8217;er nowadays run between $10 &#8211; 35 per 357gr disc&#8230;and that is the retail-end price with middlemen costs factored in and with high-spending Westerners (myself included) as the target market.</p>
<p>A pu&#8217;er tea factory usually makes a wide gamut of teas, from high to low quality ones.  If the cake above is from Menghai Dayi (I&#8217;m not sure unless you have a pic of the logo on the wrapper and/or the little embedded ticket in the middle of the disc), they usually command a higher price than most other factories&#8230;but they still don&#8217;t &#8212; or very rarely &#8212; go above the $35 mark for a 2-year old *cooked* cake nowadays.</p>
<p>Yes, 2 years is considered a baby age for pu&#8217;er, but it doesn&#8217;t matter as much for the cooked type than for the raw type.  Cooked tea doesn&#8217;t evolve as much (if at all), unlike raw pu&#8217;er tea.  A few years of proper storage is known to get rid of any nasty / mud-y / pond-y / barnyard-y in some cooked teas that have those undesireable &#8220;newly released&#8221; aromas.  Not all have those aromas to begin with, however.</p>
<p>I only meant my comments in the best of intention.</p>
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		<title>By: Cinnabar</title>
		<link>http://www.gongfugirl.com/2007/05/tea-review-2005-yunnan-pu-ehr/comment-page-1/#comment-265</link>
		<dc:creator>Cinnabar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2007 22:26:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The store sets the pricing according to current availability of that particular year&#039;s cakes directly from the factory (which is where they purchase them each year). She explained the whole process to us in detail (although I can&#039;t relay it perfectly, unfortunately). My understanding is that the pu-ehr from this particular factory in Yunnan Province is in high demand every year. There may be some factors I am unaware of that contribute to the cost/value. I&#039;m sure it&#039;s probably available online for less money, but I much prefer to taste a particular tea before buying it. Would 2005 be considered &quot;young?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The store sets the pricing according to current availability of that particular year&#8217;s cakes directly from the factory (which is where they purchase them each year). She explained the whole process to us in detail (although I can&#8217;t relay it perfectly, unfortunately). My understanding is that the pu-ehr from this particular factory in Yunnan Province is in high demand every year. There may be some factors I am unaware of that contribute to the cost/value. I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;s probably available online for less money, but I much prefer to taste a particular tea before buying it. Would 2005 be considered &#8220;young?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Phyll Sheng</title>
		<link>http://www.gongfugirl.com/2007/05/tea-review-2005-yunnan-pu-ehr/comment-page-1/#comment-263</link>
		<dc:creator>Phyll Sheng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2007 06:38:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Either the tea store unknowingly paid too high a price for the tea or they make a (very!) handsome profit selling these young cooked pu&#039;er.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Either the tea store unknowingly paid too high a price for the tea or they make a (very!) handsome profit selling these young cooked pu&#8217;er.</p>
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		<title>By: Cinnabar</title>
		<link>http://www.gongfugirl.com/2007/05/tea-review-2005-yunnan-pu-ehr/comment-page-1/#comment-262</link>
		<dc:creator>Cinnabar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2007 02:24:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was around $95.00.</description>
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		<title>By: Phyll</title>
		<link>http://www.gongfugirl.com/2007/05/tea-review-2005-yunnan-pu-ehr/comment-page-1/#comment-261</link>
		<dc:creator>Phyll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2007 01:44:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>May I ask how much they are charging for this young cake?  It looks like a shou (cooked) type from the photo and the description of the brewed tea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>May I ask how much they are charging for this young cake?  It looks like a shou (cooked) type from the photo and the description of the brewed tea.</p>
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